Fine delle danze...

[Gioann_Bagoss]

...rituali.
Almeno per Fiji.

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,2588 ... 87,00.html

Fiji polarised over discarded war chant
18th November 2009 10:46

Fiji's decision on religious grounds not to perform the cibi, or war chant, before Saturday's Test
against Scotland in Edinburgh has polarized the deeply religious but rugby-mad nation.
A 70-year-old tradition ended at Murrayfield when Fiji decided not to perform the cibi
on the urging of team coach and pastor Sam Domoni, who described it as a relic of Fiji's pre-Christian past.
Domoni told Fiji media that players had voted in favour of a team management move to ban the war dance because they "fear God".
Letters columns in Fiji's major newspapers and internet forums have been filled with reaction to the decision
since Saturday and several former Fiji players have expressed disappointment that a long-standing part of
Fiji's rugby history had been discarded.
Hooker George Farrell, who played for Fiji in 1964, said the cibi was performed with pride by all Fijian players.
"It is part of our rugby culture," he said.
Sale Sorovaki, who led Fiji to its last win over Scotland in 1998, said the cibi motivated players immediately before kickoff.
In its absence Saturday, Fiji slumped to a 23-10 loss to Scotland and dropped from eighth to tenth in the world rankings.
A leading article Wednesday in the Fiji Times newspaper called for the cibi to be reinstated.
"Every national rugby side since the introduction of the sport has performed this brief battle
challenge prior to test matches," said the newspaper.
"This is part of our heritage as a nation, a rallying point similar to the national anthem and a matter of pride for all our people.
"The cibi has been performed in Argentina, Australia, England, France, Ireland, Italy, Japan, New Zealand, Samoa,
South Africa, Tonga, the United States and Wales. Indeed, true rugby fans at home and abroad rank
this traditional battle cry as one of the most eagerly awaited moments in the sport."
The Fiji Times said religious objections to the cibi were misplaced.
"For the record, the cibi is a war challenge, not a prayer to some deity worshipped by the indigenous people," it said.
"The words of this now contentious dance refer only to the action of storming the enemies battlements
and laying his village to waste.
"It was an ingenious way to motivate the first Fiji rugby teams, drawing on their warrior instinct and
using language which would inspire them to achieve victory."
The newspaper said the decision taken by the current Fiji players to discard a decades-old tradition
valued by all Fijians was wrong and marked an unfortunate intrusion of religion into sport.
"Now a national rugby coach has decided that the team will not perform a basic element of the sport
as it is perceived by Fijians of all ethnicities," it said.
"That is not his call, nor is it a decision which should have been made on tour.
"Sports and religion do not mix."

[porcorosso]

Mah... me someja na putanada...

A 70-year-old tradition ended at Murrayfield when Fiji decided not to perform the cibi
on the urging of team coach and pastor Sam Domoni, who described it as a relic of Fiji's pre-Christian past.
Domoni told Fiji media that players had voted in favour of a team management move to ban the war dance because they "fear God".

Bisogna spiegare a Domoni che tutte le religioni fondono le loro prerogative sul suolo che trovano.
Per fare un esempio la piramide politeista della Roma e Grecia classica si ritrova nel cristianesimo sottoforma di dio > sacra famiglia > apostoli > santi > beati. Piramide estranea al culto dei primi paleocristiani e adottata a partire dal IV secolo ovvero con l'inizio della religione di stato tracciata dai padri della chiesa (ex-senatori romani).

Se poi si pensa a Dio come entità superiore non si capisce come possa egli essere intaccato (o disturbato) da una danza sportivo-ritualistica e non da una massacrata di botte da 80' ad essa successiva...
Saluti PR

[Laporte]

Anche a me sembra una puttanata.
Ma teniamo presente che abbiamo a che vare con protestanti, i quali hanno prosegyuito nel razzismo per molto più tempo e con molta più convinzione dei Cattolici.

A me viene un dubbio: la cibi era la più brutta delle danze. E dunque commwrcialmente la meno appetibile ?